SWADE talk!

JoeGun

The latest version of Savage Worlds just dropped! Wanted to get peoples opinions on the changes!

So far I'm loving the new Chase rules, the general redesign of char creation and the like.

I tried running a "quick encounter" and it felt forced. I'll probably try it again, but it was a PbP so it might not be the best venue to try.

JoeGun

I also love the refactor of social conflict. The opposed rolls help add tension every round.

EricfromNJ

I have the deluxe version. Should I get the new rulebook or just print out the update?

I love me some SW, mind you. I am thinking of running it at a Steampunk con here in NJ.

JoeGun

I love the new edition myself. The layout, the updated rules. I know they will give the update for free (which is awesome) but the PDF is still only 10 bucks, and the hard cover book is pretty cheap too. Well worth the price of admission!

EricfromNJ

I thought the hard cover book was 50 bucks or something insane. How much will it be?

JoeGun

EricfromNJ they are not doing the soft cover anymore. It wasn't cost effective for them to do both. Only the hard cover.

Flyingjackelope

The Kickstarter pledge to get the Harcover was $50. I'm not sure what the pricing for the book will be once out. I went a little crazy and shelled out $200 for the collector's since I don't have anything SW.

EricfromNJ

Yeah I don't consider the hardcover all that cheap if I can get the rules update for now and wait for a softcover to come out.
Mind you, I am excited by what I have heard so far about the new rules, I am just poor at the moment.
So for you people that have seen in, what is your favorite thing in the new edition? Also, what are the chase rules like now?

Ignatious

I’m getting through it but it seems cleaned up.

Void_Worship

Currently running a campaign using the new rules and they have streamlined a lot. My favorite things about it so far are the new states that make things like Stun and Entangle make sense as well as the new Tests. Those along with more social edges have actually made non-combat PCs a totally viable approach even in combat!

Kimi

Void_Worship I am very interested in this! I have always enjoyed playing SW but have been hesitant to GM it because it seemed a little clunky in some ways.

Void_Worship

Kimi Ah. Yeah. There are still of course the conditional modifiers and combat options but now that everything has been pretty much brought under a system of 2's (-2, -4, +2, +4) it makes it a little easier to keep track of on the GM's side.

What in particular did you find clunky with the GM side of Savage Worlds?

JoeGun

Kimi Yes I also feel it was streamlined a lot. Tests and support rolls are much better. The new edges to really make non-combat characters who want to use things like tests are much better. and the setting rule "creative combat" while requiring an extra roll on a raise, is really fun to add some extra fun when getting a raise on a test. ( kinda like stunting in the AGE system)

I think they did a lot to take from more story driven games, while still retaining the crunchy bits of the system. It still feels like Savage Worlds, but filled in a lot of the holes in other parts of the system that it had.

whodo

I've picked it up and had a quick look through. As always the production values look great, haven't had the chance to go over all the mechanical changes. I like the look of quick encounters, feels like they are basically skill challenges from D&D 4e.

OFTHEHILLPEOPLE

I ran Dragon VS Lich this past weekend using SWADE for the first time. It was a lot of fun. People are enjoying the new power, edge, and hindrance changes along with the simplified statuses.

@Kimi PEG just released an updated generic GM screen for SWADE and it's fantastic. Used it and made referencing simple and easy.

My only gripe is that a lot of powers have effects that change what the power does if there is a raise or extra power points spent, but the summary of the powers doesn't represent those bonus abilities very well. So as a GM creating pre-gens it's hard to truncate power language onto a sheet for a player in a way that's easy to understand and doesn't require having a rulebook nearby.

Other than that I'm loving the changes of the system.

JoeGun

OFTHEHILLPEOPLE Yeah it is the balance of making a power be more useful ( having more options and such) but making it concise enough to display on a line. I think they have decided on the former, and rely on the power cards they are creating. These days, I usually print out custom power cards for my players anyway, and then simply list the powers and the page number on the main character sheet.

bobcatt

Haven't read through the new rules yet.

Had only just gotten around to reading the Deluxe Explorer edition which I STILL HAVE NOT PLAYED!

Seriously, finding the time to get a game in is really tough.

OFTHEHILLPEOPLE

bobcatt If you're game for an online game I'm sure I could run a demo.

bobcatt

OFTHEHILLPEOPLE That sounds great, but I managed to not participate in the MYZ: Alpha PbF on the Discord. Things got squirrelly² at work and haven't really cleared up. I'll PM you.

OFTHEHILLPEOPLE

I think I'll set up a demo day to run SWADE for people. I'll post a topic tonight and see who can get together.

JoeGun

OFTHEHILLPEOPLE Maybe we could plug this under the Jackercon: Nights! Get the ball rolling!